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Tha LowEnd Theory

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 3840 Location: Valley Ranch, Texas
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Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| dvlsadvc8t wrote: | | Thanks TLET. I wonder how much of a bomb I would be making if I sprayed the CAR directly into the glass container on a Preval unit. For the other way - turning the can upside down - obviously I wouldn't shake the can but should I worry about losing a lot of paint when spraying out the air? |
I do it all the time.
 _________________ "To me, putting a lacquer finish over a poly finish is a lot like gold plating a turd.
It will be shiny, and a pretty color, but underneath it's still a turd." ~Houndog
"You didn't plan to fail, you failed to plan." ~M. DeCluette |
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dvlsadvc8t

Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 174 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Candy Apple Red came in today. For the first go 'round, I sprayed some CAR into the bottle for a Preval sprayer and added some nitro. The mixture was about 30/70 CAR to nitro. Here's a pic of that coat:
For the second coat, I mixed it about 40/60 CAR to nitro:
You definitely need to spray this with a spray gun just so you can really get it even. I can't imagine how hard this is using the aerosol. It's hard enough like this. I having the sprayer set wide enough that it will cover the entire body on one pass. This works well because it naturally mists the CAR on for me. |
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dvlsadvc8t

Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 174 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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I just tried to search for some of the posts discussing how to spray CAR, but they weren't there. Even the thread posted above showing TLET's CAR strat doesn't exist anymore. Don't know if something's going on right now or what.
Anyway, I wanted to find out if I should shoot some wet coats of the CAR or continue to mist it on there. Thanks. |
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Cody Paul
Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Posts: 60
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| dvlsadvc8t wrote: | I just tried to search for some of the posts discussing how to spray CAR, but they weren't there. Even the thread posted above showing TLET's CAR strat doesn't exist anymore. Don't know if something's going on right now or what.
Anyway, I wanted to find out if I should shoot some wet coats of the CAR or continue to mist it on there. Thanks. |
I'm enjoying this thread and looking forward to seeing the results. Looks good so far.
Some of the threads I was watching are gone as well. _________________ "I was told when I started to play that simple music is the hardest music in the world to play. And blues is simple music." Albert Collins |
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dvlsadvc8t

Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 174 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Here's a couple of pics with the final color coats added. Again, I did somewhere between a 40/60 and 50/50 mixture of CAR and nitro. On this last color coat, I narrowed the spray width a little to be able to hit the edges better and catch some areas that weren't quite covered as much as I wanted. I also put just a little more than a mist on there, but certainly not anything near what would be considered a wet coat. A spray gun is definitely the way to go when spraying this stuff. It is really cool to see the gold flakes shining through the red.
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Vince

Joined: 10 May 2007 Posts: 10225 Location: Decatur IL
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Very very nice!
Thanks for the tips as I think it looks great! Covered perfectly I would say... _________________ US GUITAR SUPPLY |
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dvlsadvc8t

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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Vince wrote: | Very very nice!
Thanks for the tips as I think it looks great! Covered perfectly I would say... |
Thanks Vince. I actually should be thanking you guys for the tips - you, Stike, TLET, and many more. Reading everyone's input on the other threads, not just about CAR, has helped so much. |
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Tha LowEnd Theory

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 3840 Location: Valley Ranch, Texas
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Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Man that looks great! Good job!!! _________________ "To me, putting a lacquer finish over a poly finish is a lot like gold plating a turd.
It will be shiny, and a pretty color, but underneath it's still a turd." ~Houndog
"You didn't plan to fail, you failed to plan." ~M. DeCluette |
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Lon

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 4464 Location: Stephenville, TX
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Looks great. Start shooting the clear and watch the color pop. Stand back and be amazed at your work.  |
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dvlsadvc8t

Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 174 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:38 am Post subject: |
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| I shot a light mist of clear this morning (not even a coat). I came back a couple of hours later and shot a heavier mist of clear and noticed what looked like some lint in the clear. It's been drying in an extremely hot room for the last 45 minutes and will dry for another couple of hours because I have to run out and grab some more clear from WoodCraft (they have Behlen nitro here). Anyway, what would you guys recommend sanding this with to clean it up? I have some #0000 steel wool and sandpaper all the way from 320 up to 2000 plus I have some of those StewMac micromesh pads. I was thinking of lightly running the steel wool over the body to knock down some of the overspray (at least that's what it looks like) and hopefully this would knock out those pieces of lint. Sound like a smart thing to do? Obviously if I shoot anymore it will bury the lint. |
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Tha LowEnd Theory

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 3840 Location: Valley Ranch, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| dvlsadvc8t wrote: | | I shot a light mist of clear this morning (not even a coat). I came back a couple of hours later and shot a heavier mist of clear and noticed what looked like some lint in the clear. It's been drying in an extremely hot room for the last 45 minutes and will dry for another couple of hours because I have to run out and grab some more clear from WoodCraft (they have Behlen nitro here). Anyway, what would you guys recommend sanding this with to clean it up? I have some #0000 steel wool and sandpaper all the way from 320 up to 2000 plus I have some of those StewMac micromesh pads. I was thinking of lightly running the steel wool over the body to knock down some of the overspray (at least that's what it looks like) and hopefully this would knock out those pieces of lint. Sound like a smart thing to do? Obviously if I shoot anymore it will bury the lint. |
PUT THE STEEL WOOL DOWN AND SLOWLY BACK AWAY!!! NOW!!!!
DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT sand or steel wool or anything at this point. If anything get you a set of pointy tweezers and try to remove the lint. If it's tiny pieces I would ignore and continue on. Any sanding at this point will ruin the consistent color you have and possibly the flake. Every one of my builds has some piece of me somewhere in the finish. maybe a hair or piece of lint from my clothes. I can't find them anymore, but I always notice one somewhere along the way. In the end they are a non factor. So I would not advise any sanding at this point. Tweezers are your friend. They have saved me several times. _________________ "To me, putting a lacquer finish over a poly finish is a lot like gold plating a turd.
It will be shiny, and a pretty color, but underneath it's still a turd." ~Houndog
"You didn't plan to fail, you failed to plan." ~M. DeCluette
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Vince

Joined: 10 May 2007 Posts: 10225 Location: Decatur IL
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:45 am Post subject: |
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You don't want to hit it with anything until the metallic flakes are completely buried... If you are very very careful... you can pick the lint out with some precision tweezers but on a metallic finish... I wouldn't... I'd leave it since chances are you will never see it once it is buried.
BTW... check my store... I have the right tweezers for the job if you need them. _________________ US GUITAR SUPPLY |
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dvlsadvc8t

Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 174 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks guys. These are more like lint balls so I'll go the tweezer route. I hate not having the other threads on here anymore because now I have to ask questions that I know have already been answered. BUT when would you start shooting some nice wet coats of clear? Or would you just continue shooting misting coats (just a lot more of them)? |
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dvlsadvc8t

Joined: 08 Oct 2009 Posts: 174 Location: Houston, TX
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:50 am Post subject: |
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After inspecting these areas, there were a few pieces of lint in the finish that came out easily. What I was looking at the most was actually overspray that obviously dried well before the nitro hit the body - melted right away with another spray-over. Now time to let it sit for a while and dry.
Back to the previous question - when would you guys start shooting some wet coats of clear? |
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Tha LowEnd Theory

Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 3840 Location: Valley Ranch, Texas
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Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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| dvlsadvc8t wrote: | After inspecting these areas, there were a few pieces of lint in the finish that came out easily. What I was looking at the most was actually overspray that obviously dried well before the nitro hit the body - melted right away with another spray-over. Now time to let it sit for a while and dry.
Back to the previous question - when would you guys start shooting some wet coats of clear? |
You should be good to go. If you have 2 or 3 mist coats on there just progressively spray wetter coats. Make each one a little wetter than the previous until you are spraying normal. _________________ "To me, putting a lacquer finish over a poly finish is a lot like gold plating a turd.
It will be shiny, and a pretty color, but underneath it's still a turd." ~Houndog
"You didn't plan to fail, you failed to plan." ~M. DeCluette |
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