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head/cab
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combo
8%
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2-12"
28%
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4-10"
12%
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wood finish
8%
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tolex
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cane webbing
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traditional grill cloth
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dougk



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

solemn13 wrote:

That doesn't look that hard to make. Might have to buy an acoustic side bender for it. The knobs may be tricky. Beatiful amp though. I have been thinking of redoing my danelectro housing, I might try something like that.


I dont know... looks pretty tough to me. The sides are multiple pieces and getting all the curved pieces to glue up so nicely looks tricky.

I LOVE the cabs that guy (Arkamps) builds though. Absolutely works of art!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about this last night.

What if you glued up thick boards and as you stacked them as you made the curves?

Kind of like how you turn a corner when laying bricks.

I'd like to see the inside of that cab because that would probably tell the story.

Then take the whole mess to a big belt sander to smooth it out.

I had asked the guy that owns Ark Amps before when he posted at The Gear Page about construction time.

He said his cab guy can whip these out pretty fast.

In fact is was after he posted that amp that I did in this thread.

That would lead me to believe that he is not bending thin wood like for an acoustic guitar.

Also if that wood was real thin, I can't imagine a handle on the top would be able to support the amp when picked up.

Just thinking out loud.....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Structo wrote:

He said his cab guy can whip these out pretty fast.


What's fast for a woodworker ... power tools? Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well of course power tools but I had the impression and I'm lousy at paraphrasing somebodies elses statements or thoughts, but that he meant that his cab build could get one of these ready for finish (whatever that is, looks like oil to me) in just a few hours.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: arkamps Reply with quote

I wounder how thick those boards are before he runs them thru a planer....
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Structo wrote:
Well of course power tools but I had the impression and I'm lousy at paraphrasing somebodies elses statements or thoughts, but that he meant that his cab build could get one of these ready for finish (whatever that is, looks like oil to me) in just a few hours.


Sorry, I was making a joke about power tools at the expense of some of my purist woodworking friends.
Was he speaking of this particular model? You've got to get the moisture out of the wood before you glue them up, unless he uses polyurethane glue, but the assembly would still need to dry out completely before final shaping and finishing. From what I've seen, the other amps are relatively easy glue ups.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Structo wrote:
Well of course power tools but I had the impression and I'm lousy at paraphrasing somebodies elses statements or thoughts, but that he meant that his cab build could get one of these ready for finish (whatever that is, looks like oil to me) in just a few hours.


Honestly... I put that (not you but what he said) in the 50/50 bullshit category. Unless he means, once he's got everything cut and ready to glue up and assemble then sure.

Course, Im just not creative enough to come up with cabs like that. Something that wild would take me days to build... you can see how far along I am on the one I started for my 18watter in the corner of that picture Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you could always look for a 16ohm 15" vintage speaker depending on the power output of the amp...fender made a single 15 version of the pro reverb...very rare.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dougk wrote:
solemn13 wrote:

That doesn't look that hard to make. Might have to buy an acoustic side bender for it. The knobs may be tricky. Beatiful amp though. I have been thinking of redoing my danelectro housing, I might try something like that.


I dont know... looks pretty tough to me. The sides are multiple pieces and getting all the curved pieces to glue up so nicely looks tricky.

I LOVE the cabs that guy (Arkamps) builds though. Absolutely works of art!



If you leave the outside pieces square for clamping it shouldn't be too hard. The front and back shouldn't be any harder than clamping up a cutting board.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the head/combo conversation, one basic point (that's probably pretty obvious) is that in some (lots? most?) combos, the vibrations of the speaker transfer in an undesirable manner to the chassis, and ultimately to the tubes.

And bad sound is (or at least can be) emitted.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:40 pm    Post subject: amp build Reply with quote

Well, The Bros have spoken, It shall be a head and cab, But I will run 4 10 inch Eminence 'Lil Buddy' speakers. Now bros, the construction will be #1 pine, fingerjointed of course, tolex or Natural ?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would go for Tolex if you're going to be taking it out. Pine is too soft and will be reliced in no time. Or you could veneer it and put a thick clear on it.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: amp Reply with quote

It will be my home unit...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chester is right on the money with the construction!
The inside curves are cut before the glue-up.

Doug,
If you were building that cabinet of yours 10 times a week, I'll bet you'd get pretty quick doing them. Smile

Anyone listen to the Ark clips?
They sound like I need me one...
Or two, which is bad since I am broke! Laughing
I liked the tones though from what I could hear.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was trying to vote, but you can only vote for one thing at a time, so...

My selections with what you have to work with would be...

Head/cab rig, 3/4"baltic birch amp cab with curly or quilted maple front and rear panels inset 1" or so and dyed vintage amber burst.
Machined stainless faceplate (the kind with the little sanded circle pattern on it) oxidized deep copper with control denotations deeply engraved into the metal.
Plywood wrapped in the tolex heavy nickel plated, knobbed metal corner caps.

Speaker cabinet built from 3/4" baltic birch veneer core plywood, 1/2" MDF internal bracing, 1-1/2" front baffles angled L&R 5 deg, sealed back and dual ported. Essentially 2 single sealed ported 12" enclosures in one box so stereo work is possible.
Wrapped in your tolex with dyed, figured maple trim.
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