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horaxe



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 1:32 pm    Post subject: paisley finishes, et al Reply with quote

How hard are these to do, really?

I'm considering trying one, and it looks as simple (if there is a thing) as getting the fabric to adhere to the wood and then painting the edges and clear coating.

Is that it?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: paisley finishes, et al Reply with quote

horaxe wrote:
How hard are these to do, really?

I'm considering trying one, and it looks as simple (if there is a thing) as getting the fabric to adhere to the wood and then painting the edges and clear coating.

Is that it?

Basically, yes. More often than not, it's much more complicated.

Fabric soaks up a metric spitload of clear, so be prepared.

There's a tutorial on doing a fabric finish on projectguitar.com. It's pretty basic, but that's what you need at this point. Practice on scrap until you find your groove.

http://www.projectguitar.com/tutorials/finishingrefinishing/material-finishes-r30/

My paisleys and other patterned finishes are a different process that I developed after studying everything I could find. You'll have to decide what works best for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey I believe you and I have worked together a little bit on another forum on this project... how did that work for you?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm partway through a fabric finish guitar myself. I strongly second that suggestion of testing on scraps, and pay very close attention to temperature and humidity. I made the mistake of testing a scrap at one humidity, applying the finish to the real thing at a different humidity and getting different results. So the guitar top is a work in progress, but the back, which I covered in fabric first, came out good so far. My design is a little different, with the front, back and sides all being separate things.

As far as filling in the fabric to get a level surface, I had good results using Aqua Coat. It's a gel consistency grain filler that dries clear and dries very hard. It's designed to fill up wood grain to give clear coats a flat surface to lay down on. That way you don't have to spend an eternity and tons of clear coats filling up the texture of the fabric.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And make sure the wood surface is impeccably well prepped. No bumps, no little particles or fibers, clean fabric. And use a squeegee or plastic scraper to lay the fabric down nice and even with the surface when you glue it down. Any little air bubbles or imperfections will come up to visit you later and be exaggerated by the clear. I monitored the fabric as the glue was setting up, and if any little section started to rise up, I'd poke it with a pin and push it back down into the glue. Seemed to work all right.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I did mine, I used Mod Podge. Both to adhere to the guitar and as a sealer. Probably 10 coats or so, let it dry for a week then lightly level sanded with 800 grit dry. Cleared in nitro.



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